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Title: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: Lynch on February 13, 2012, 10:22:22 PM
What say you?
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: Lynch on February 13, 2012, 10:23:19 PM
Him on the bench was our best rotation tonight. Was not his night. Hopefully he's learned something.
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: Lynch on February 13, 2012, 10:25:00 PM
lol there is no less than 15 threads on GOPO right now talking about his play.

He should have handed the ball the Samuels for the 3, and should have dumped it off the JO for the dunk. Selfish play tonight, especially when you aren't in the game mentally.
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: Herdsmen11 on February 14, 2012, 08:32:39 AM
He really hurt us last night, but it wasn't just him. We have every opportunity to beat them, and couldn't capitalize.

Good news though! Face stomping and kicking is now allowed, Big XII officiating cleared it last night, and they even picked up their first sponsor; Thomas Robinson. So next time you see you friend give him a swift kick in the face, tell him its ok because the Big XII approved it. He'll understand, at least Frank Martin and Thomas Gipson did.
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: cf0102 on February 14, 2012, 10:26:35 AM
Frank is always hard on his point guards. I just remember the growth that Jake showed during his career and that's what will keep me patient with Angel.
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: KSUftw on February 14, 2012, 01:30:19 PM
I can't help but still like Angel with his runs he has provided.  Yes, he turns it over, but when he sits... our offense turns into nothing for 7-8 minutes at a TIME!  Multiple times a game!  When he is on the floor, we go on large runs.  If I had the option, I would play Jam Sam, Diaz, Irving, Grude, Angel when we are down and Jam Sam, JO, Sprads, Grude, Southwell when we are up.  If we are close.... doesn't matter, we wont be for long, so then turn back to lineups above for each situation.
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: Lynch on February 14, 2012, 01:44:54 PM
Been waiting on your reply to this. Angel has been doing good, but last night he needed to SIT no matter what. Sprads needs to be on the floor at all times and Frank made that very clear when he sent him back into the game. NO ONE knows our offensive system and what Frank wants more than Will. Without big minutes from Will (which is why he gets them) This season would be a lot uglier than it has become.

:D
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: KSUftw on February 15, 2012, 02:23:19 PM
I will agree to disagree :D 
Did Angel need to sit, you bet, and this year and next year he will get the Frank guard treatment which anyone can admit, doesn't make them look pretty ever.  But it works in the end.  Unfortunately, we only got 75% of Pullen his junior year and got 110% (that's what Frank gets) his senior year.

Did Sprads need to play, no way.  He should have been watching form the bench for most of that as well.  Point is, we don't have a go to guard or one that can score AND run the offense.  We only have one or the other.  The way Sprads ended last year (same with McGrude, so not just Sprads deal), I thought we would see them shine this year.  Nope.. however, I do expect McGrude to be a Pullen next year and I do expect Sprads to be Pullen next year as well even as a Junior.
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: dobbie4ksu on February 15, 2012, 02:52:39 PM
Flat out other than speed Angel has the ability to become as good, if not better than THE Denis Clemente, I say this for a reason. Look at numbers, Denis didn't have great numbers early on but, improved over time, he was very cocky in his early stage. Denis matured and so will Angel, he is't as fast but, he will get better. He needs to learn that when he goes inside with his size to pump fake or use his shoulder, to get the man off his feet or jump into them, and also learn the McGruder floater. The kid has swag and he needs to keep that, if he can get the smarts to go with said swag, he will be as good as Denis.

I believe his problem in the KU game is that, HE wanted to be the ONE who beat KU well it's a team sport so in turn became one of the reasons KSU lost. I have not given up on this team yet, we will either beat Mizzou or Baylor on the road (Mark that down). I think we have it in us, and I also believe we will win against aTm, OSU, and ISU. If we do this we will be seeded anywhere between the 7-10 area. On a good day KSU can beat anyone, and I don't see the NCAA passing them up if they get above or right at 20 wins for the fact that, KSU has that ability and can be a bracket buster!

Don't be so hard on Angel he is still a freshman, we are a young team and we are going to be awesome over the next few years, believe that' (obviously my WE is in reference to being a fan, I know I'm not on the team)
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: Lynch on February 15, 2012, 02:56:51 PM
Welcome back Dobbie!

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On a good day KSU can beat anyone

I agree this is evident in the Mizzou game a month ago.

I just hope AR learned a lot from Monday night. He WILL be good, and Frank has put him in a lot of tough situations for his age/experiance, this can only help us down the road (we hope).
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: dobbie4ksu on February 15, 2012, 03:08:53 PM
Even on a bad day we can play with the top of the league, look at Baylor and KU. Once we get the fact that the game is a 40 minute game not just 10 minutes here and there, KSU will be scary to play. Easily one of the best defenses I have ever seen (excluding the Texas and ISU game). We win one B12 tourny game and it's a lock for sure. Angel learned that at 3 foot you can't go up against someone who is 13 feet tall. I hope so anyway
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: KSUftw on February 18, 2012, 09:28:05 PM
:D  Thanks Angel for bringing the A game vs Baylor that we (including Lynch) knew you had!
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: KSUftw on February 22, 2012, 09:50:25 AM
You knew it was coming since I am such a big Angel fan, right behind Gruder fan.   :Drink:

http://espn.go.com/ncb/photos?gameId=320520142&photoId=1868564#photo_1868564 (http://espn.go.com/ncb/photos?gameId=320520142&photoId=1868564#photo_1868564)

Who wouldn't want him as our pg for THREE more years.   8)
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: Lynch on February 22, 2012, 10:11:11 AM
Yes he will be to Spradling what McGruder was to Pullen. :D
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: KSUftw on February 22, 2012, 01:20:37 PM
HAHAHA, Well at least you admitted basically without saying it that he is enabling the team to dominate.  Aka, help greatly (probably second most ;) after gruder) to punching our ticket!
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: Lynch on February 22, 2012, 02:31:59 PM
You're right he is the 2nd best behind McGruder. Which would make him the 3rd best Guard overall.
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: KSUftw on February 22, 2012, 02:52:14 PM
Thats ok...  Sprads gets mentioned once and awhile on tv.  I did get tired of hearing how much love the espn analysts were giving to Angel.  I almost felt like they liked him more then I did and thats not going to fly. 
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: Lynch on February 22, 2012, 03:29:04 PM
Ask Bob Knight.
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: KSUftw on February 22, 2012, 03:33:36 PM
Have you ever trusted this man?  I know we are in agreement that he is a disgrace to any broadcast.  The real test will be Gus and if he is going Pullen nuts on Angel or Sprads come tourney time!!
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: EMAWnster on February 22, 2012, 11:02:00 PM
Angel is definitely more of Gus type of player... high speed, take it to hole, boom or bust kind of guy. That said, Gus can go absolutely nuts about anyone in the right situation. Whatever the case, I can't wait for another Gus game in the NCAA's for the Cats.
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: KSUftw on February 23, 2012, 11:21:10 AM
Heck, I still go watch our Xavier game highlights every so often.  Glad he joined in fball. 
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: Lynch on February 23, 2012, 02:09:12 PM
Klein + Gus =  :iheartu: :15yrds: :herewego: :whoops: :JustDance: :robert:
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: dobbie4ksu on February 28, 2012, 03:11:05 PM
This Angel to JO connection is growing stronger and stronger, I can't be more happy with the fact that Angel is actually seeing these looks! Those 'oops to JO have been to damn sexy!  :Salute:
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: Lynch on February 28, 2012, 03:42:10 PM
Just wish they would happen more frequently than his oops that go out of bounds.
Title: Re: Angel Rodriguez
Post by: dobbie4ksu on February 28, 2012, 03:52:11 PM
agreed 100 percent, they are just now getting in the groove. I think it will only get better!