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Title: What was worse?
Post by: Felis Silvestris on December 30, 2010, 05:49:06 PM
What was worse... the excessive celebration call or our defense?
Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: cyclist on December 30, 2010, 06:11:36 PM
Well, KSU sure didn't deserve to win with how the Defense played.  That we still had an opportunity to tie is amazing to me.

I suppose the excessive celebration flag was a 'make up' call. 

I'll vote with the defense.  If the defense could stop Syracuse any in the 2nd half, we had a good shot to win, regardless of the excessive celebration call.
Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: Felis Silvestris on December 30, 2010, 06:30:23 PM
That we still had an opportunity to tie is amazing to me.

Agreed.  I've got to hand it to Coffman and company for keeping us in the game. 
Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: cf0102 on December 30, 2010, 07:12:09 PM
The defense was bad but there are games like that and you win them despite your defense. That penalty.....If that official ever works another college football game it will be a complete injustice!

:cutyou:
Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: Cole on December 31, 2010, 12:37:21 AM
considering tennessee's QB did 2 salutes during their game, yeah it is a bunch of BS. his were way worse then hilburns single salute
Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: Lynch on December 31, 2010, 08:13:00 AM
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Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: DUB on December 31, 2010, 08:18:45 AM
Good job Lynch.  I was hoping someone would pick up on that too.  Also, Syracuse's second touchdown (run) ended similar to that with a exchange with the crowd.  The media did show other games that players did similar things, but no one went back to the same game to show the inconsistency in the game.  I think this is a "make-up" call because of all the whinning the Syracuse coach was doing all through the game.

This one should be on the defense (as it was through the whole year), not on Hilburn.

Very good game though....proud of our Cats.
Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: KSUftw on December 31, 2010, 10:04:11 AM
Gratz to our team.  Snyder went into the game knowing our defense was nasty bad and was able to get Coffman and the offense rolling over the #5 defense.  This offensive performance imo was the best all year.  Our special teams didn't have a breakout run or score, but they held onto the ball and with the short kicks, we started on the 45 all game.

My frustration isn't with losing, or having the chance to tie, or the wasted bomb at the end (I get extra mad when we don't give ourselves at least a chance... that ball needed to be in bounds where our receiver had a chance to fight for it), but my frustration is how the NCAA keeps adding rules to a game that has been played for so long and on top of that, adds rules that make a referee use their personal judgment.  For goodness sake, they added replay to eliminate judgment mistakes.  Now Hilburn makes a fabulous play and makes 1 gesture and the referees basically gave Hilburn something that will haunt him for many years.  The fact that a referee just toyed with an athletes mind is unbelievable.  You either standardize a rule, or get rid of it.  I hate the malicious hit / helmet to helmet rule because the refs get it wrong sometimes.  I believe new rules should have nearly 0% fail rate.  Ref thinks someone just had a helmet to helmet, go check a replay (like basketball :D  just check the monitors) and double check.  Last night in the Tenn vs. UNC game, they got one wrong.  Replay showed both guys turned and it was a shoulder collision.  Yet… team got 15 yards.  That’s my two cents.
Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: Cole on December 31, 2010, 12:31:34 PM
in the UNC vs. Tennessee game there were Many missed calls. i know there were at least a couple late hits by UT that should have been called that were very clearly a late hit and the refs didn't call it. I also think based off of what i watched last night, that Tennessee is a very dirty team. idk how many 15 yard penalties they had, but i know there was quite a few.

and alright, if the refs are gonna have a "make-up" call do it earlier in the game or some other time that is more reasonable. NOT when the game is on the line and to where it makes a team have a very slight shot at winning b/c of one of their calls.
Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: DUB on January 03, 2011, 03:49:32 PM
Even though it's in a negative light...the Cats got a lot of PR out of this.  The whole country is commenting on this game, most calling it the most exciting game of the bowl season.  Kind of like the Xavier basketball game was and we got a lot of respect out of that game.  That officiating crew is taking a beating from fans and media (and rightfully so). 

 :colors:
Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: cf0102 on January 03, 2011, 05:46:43 PM
The Big 10 (11, 12 X 2) is taking a beating from fans and media (and rightfully so).
Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: Lynch on January 04, 2011, 10:37:45 AM
If you haven't joined it yet there is a Facebook group called "Wildcat Salute" There are some big names that have joined it in support of the new K-State touchdown/bb dunk celebration tradition.
Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: KSUftw on January 04, 2011, 11:08:57 AM
If you haven't joined it yet there is a Facebook group called "Wildcat Salute" There are some big names that have joined it in support of the new K-State touchdown/bb dunk celebration tradition.

Are we really going to start doing it on touchdowns going forward?  That would be awesome!   :Salute:
Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: Cole on January 04, 2011, 02:42:34 PM
what "big names" have joined?
Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: Lynch on January 04, 2011, 03:48:49 PM
Several players  (FB and BB)including Adrian. K-State Prez, I heard Regis and LeBron joined but havne't looked at all the members.
Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: KSUftw on January 04, 2011, 03:53:43 PM
Several players  (FB and BB)including Adrian. K-State Prez, I heard Regis and LeBron joined but havne't looked at all the members.

Found out when I walked into work this morning that Regis was going NUTS over the call.  Said it was bull and how worse others celebrate with no call.  Regis was very mad on Live TV about the whole deal.
Title: Re: What was worse?
Post by: Albatross on January 04, 2011, 04:36:11 PM
I can't post any YouTube videos on here so google....Regis Salute Video.

Regis Philbin has our back, he actually gets a little heated!! :Salute: